EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES
How
often have you wondered how tobacco executives -- the death merchants
-- can reconcile selling addictive and lethal products which also kill
those bystanders who breathe in the smoke?
Compare if you will the 2005 comments of Louis
Camilleri of Philip Morris/Altria
excerpted later on this page, with
the 2005 comments below made by Mrs. Rivka Davides of the Davides Group
which imports
tobacco products to Israel.
Below are excerpts from a translation of a radio program on KOL Israel, in Israel,
August 21, 2005, with anchor Gabi Gazit. This
is based on an award for volunteer activism given to Mrs. Rivka
Davides, whose family made its fortune from the import of tobacco
products to Israel.
Mrs. Rivka Davides, 70, has established a Heart to Heart association in Haifa, and received the special Presidential Award for her contributions to cardiology centers in Israel. Here are excerpts from her interview in the morning talk show of the KOL Israel Radio, with anchor Gabi Gazit (August 21. 2005):
GAZIT: In
few
moments, Mrs. Rivka Davides, a sworn contributor for the fight against
heart disease and to cardiology institutes, will receive at the
President's residence a special award for volunteering in the promotion
of public health. There
is just this small matter, that Mrs. Davides and her husband, Moshe,
are heading a big company called Davides Group, who is in the business
of importing cigarettes, cigars, and tobacco products to Israel.
Good morning Mrs. Davides, have you already received the award?
DAVIDES: Of course... I received it for
organizing in
Haifa and the north [of Israel], the whole north, all the hospitals,
the Society Heart to Heart,
with the participation of the Haifa municipality. I am fully
volunteering for 21 years, bringing in new equipment, CPR courses, all
free of charge, saving lives. This is more important than the
disengagement ...
GAZIT: Let us not talk about the disengagement,
but
about the family corporation which you and your husband own, which for
years have been importing tobacco products to Israel.
DAVIDES: Many years. I was born with tobacco and
cigarettes. My father was the monopolist of "Dubek" [the Israeli
tobacco conglomerate] and I was born and I speak Arabic ... and I know
you,
and I adore you ... for me you are a very good media person.
GAZIT: Great. So in the name of the press let me
ask
you ... Don't
you see any contradiction between the fact that you are
commended for public health, on the one hand, and on the other hand,
you are selling to the public tobacco products and cigarettes, which
every day anew inflict it with cancer?
DAVIDES:
If I were not, then somebody else would
sell
these cigarettes. Today there is Dubek factory manufacturing
cigarettes, and the state receiving 6 billion dollars from
cigarettes.
And if [this] was forbidden, this should be totally forbidden in this
country.
GAZIT: ... Let me put the question in a manner
that will make the answer easier for you.
DAVIDES: The cigarettes are my husband['s]....
GAZIT:
Look, on one hand, you sell cigarettes to people, they smoke them, they
get cancer, they get heart attacks, and then you contribute to the
hospital that takes care of them when they arrive there after they got
sick
from the cigarettes which you had sold them; there is some internal
logical contradiction, no?
DAVIDES:
If not for me, this would not be there at all. So which one is
better?
If not me, bringing in all this equipment, all those shots and CPR
courses, what would happen, much worse.
GAZIT:
Listen, I have a great solution! Just stop selling cigarettes to the
public...
DAVIDES: What are you suggesting? That I shall
stop making my living... ?
GAZIT: Wait a second, lady, and then you wouldn't
have
to... I'll tell you what you make your living of -- why don't you grow
bananas in the Jordan Valley?
DAVIDES: Come on, give me better ideas. We shall
keep selling cigars. I am proud of what I am doing.
GAZIT: But cigarettes are not healthy, Mrs.,
Davides.
DAVIDES:
If not me, there will be somebody else. I have many competitors,
and I know where this item came from.
GAZIT: I understand you... from whom?
DAVIDES: From people who were not invited to the
festivity [in the occasion of the award]... People who were in
pain
for not being invited...
GAZIT: Bad people.
DAVIDES: There is
jealousy and we have competitors in cigars and cigarettes, in
everything, if not me, someone else would do it.
GAZIT: What can we do, there are bad people, Mrs.
Davides, I thank you very much and bless you for your good activity.
Immediately thereafter, Gazit interviewed Professor Eliezer Robinsin, chairman of the Israel Cancer Association and former chairman of the UICC, who said that cigarette smoke kills 10,000 people in Israel every year, out of them 1,500 from secondhand smoke. He mentioned the decision of these organizations not to accept any contributions from tobacco companies. The UICC has decided not to support any study, in any university or research institute, if the same department has received a contribution from a tobacco company.
Gazit then concluded the item in the following words:
"So, if there is any lesson to learn, it is that -'If I would not sell,
somebody else would'. And while we prepare a song, I'll
think of
examples for this saying".
He then cited the response of the President's
office,
which cited Mrs. Davides' voluntary activity, while the issue of her
involvement in the import of tobacco products "has never come up in the
advisory committee".
To this Gazit responds -
"I do not blame
the
President, there are thousands of people getting awards,
but the advisory committee should now mark its failure in the inability
to locate the fact that it is giving an award for public health to one
who poisons the public with cigarettes and cigars, and also with the
rest of those ill products".
The same issue was reported in the newspaper Haaretz on August 21, 2005, with details of the cardiovascular illnesses caused by tobacco smoke, and also with the names of people who attended the ceremony for the award who included the State Controller, and the managers of the three big Haifa hospitals who enjoyed the contribution. Haaretz ends the item with the reporting that Rivka Davides and her husband Moshe are proud of "not having smoked a single cigarette in their lifetime".
The hospitals refused to comment.
With thanks for the translation to Amos Hausner of the Israel Council for the Prevention of Smoking.
The comments in
April 2005 of the CEO of Alria, formerly Philip Morris Company, Louis
Camilleri, are excerpted here from a report on the 2005 Altria
meeting.
Quotations are as accurate as possible:
Camilleri offensively
denied the
testimony of Tosin Orogun,
from Nigeria, about using teenagers to recruit other teenagers and
adults to smoke. "You
mustn't let your animosity blind your judgment," he said, and referring
to Philip Morris, he said, "We're
a pygmy in Nigeria compared to other
companies." Camilleri added that Nigerians should be happy that
Philip Morris was coming to Nigeria because it was more regulated than
the tobacco already in Nigeria. Camilleri said, "To stop selling
cigarettes in Africa would be a cop out. It wouldn't make a
difference, and we're more corporately responsible than other tobacco
companies."
Camilleri defended advertising an addictive and lethal product:
"If we can't advertise, then we can't give information to consumers
about the new harm reduction cigarettes Philip Morris is producing."
In defending
expansion into other countries, Camilleri said:
"Shareholders should be
happy that Philip Morris is
expanding into third world countries because Philip Morris partners
with ministries of health, and we do more about tobacco education than
other tobacco companies would do."
Dr.
K. Heinz Ginzel in reviewing the Philip Morris web
sites noted:
"The
situation appears to be totally grotesque, bordering on the obscene, in
that there is a manufacturer who admits its merchandise harms and
kills, yet continues to advertise and sell it at home and abroad, and
to harvest the world's children as customers to secure future
profits.
The fact that PM was able to do this with impunity, and by preserving
the status quo of conducting "business as usual" without even the least
objection by government or society, reflects the depth of social morass
and the moral abyss of disintegrating values into which this
civilization has plunged."
Added
24 August 2005